The Network State Podcast
#4 - The Winklevoss Twins and Balaji

#4 - The Winklevoss Twins and Balaji

Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss talk with Balaji about how Washington, DC is losing crypto, while other countries like the UAE and Japan are winning web3.


0:00 - I'm 6'5", 220, and there's two of me!

0:58 - Crypto flippening from America to Asia

7:15 - Crypto-friendly jurisdictions in the US: Wyoming, Tennessee

8:10 - The SEC is a failed regulator

18:45 - Crypto-friendly jurisdictions worldwide: Japan, Hong Kong, Dubai, El Salvador

27:31 - Winklevosses expanding in India

33:25 - What comes out of crypto?

35:45 - Flashback to 2013 TechCrunch Disrupt

37:01 - Crypto and AI, without the buzzword bingo

44:14 - The Winklevoss city


1) Gemini:

2) Wyoming DAO law:

3) Tennessee DAO law:

4) UAE Virtual Asset Regulatory Authority (VARA):

5) Japan Web3 support:

6) 2013 TechCrunch with Balaji, Naval, Winklevosses:




The Network State Podcast
What comes after Google, Facebook, Bitcoin, and Ethereum? Perhaps it's the startup country — the network state. Balaji interviews tech founders and policymakers from around the world on managing billions of dollars and millions of people, as well as what it might take to start a new kind of state.